There have been nearly eighty comments in response to the recent PowerPoint consultation on the proposals for the development of a community heritage park in the windmill field in Saintfield. The great majority of these are positive and welcoming of a much-needed shared outdoor space in Saintfield. We believe that this response indicates the excitement and interest this proposed development has sparked among the residents of Saintfield.

Some concerns have been raised, mostly by people living adjacent to the field and SDA will be taking these into account when planning the next steps of the development.

CONCERNS RAISED

ANTI-SOCIAL BEHAVIOUR

Access to the field is currently via two field gates from the Windmill Road. Although these are usually locked it is relatively easy to climb over them and there have been a few occasions in recent years when there has been anti-social behaviour in the buildings in the field.

The plan for the park includes a two-metre-high fence around the whole perimeter, similar to the one around the community centre. The gates giving access from Windmill Road will also be the same height and locked. These gates will only be used by agricultural machinery, probably only a few times per year. All access to the park will be through the community centre site and only during daylight hours when the community centre is open. There will be no access at night.

The plan also includes CCTV cameras to monitor the park during the times that it is closed. This will deter any anti-social behaviour and record any instances that may occur.

It should be noted that SDA has taken a lead in highlighting the existing problem of anti-social behaviour in Saintfield, including a public meeting with council officials and other statutory bodies. SDA is currently working on additional activities for young people, including the use of the community centre.

PARKING

There will be no access to the park from Windmill Road and those using the facility will park in the community centre. This should overcome concerns over obstructive parking in Windmill Road or Windmill Grange. The planners will adjudicate on whether there is adequate parking in the community centre site for users of the park. Generally, parks are used mostly during the day and community centres during the evening, so it makes sense to use the same parking facilities for both.

PRIVACY

The immediate neighbours have enjoyed the field being used for grazing since their houses were built. As well as a perimeter fence, the plan for the park includes tree and shrub planting to form a buffer zone along the boundaries with neighbours. The final planting plan will take into account each immediate neighbour’s preference (within reason) to maximise their privacy.

The planned CCTV cameras will be sited to monitor activity solely on the field and will not oversee neighbouring properties.

NOISE

There will always be a certain level of noise with a community park, depending on the activity taking place and the number of people present. However, it should be noted that there will not be a children’s play park in the field. SDA already has planning approval for a play park at the front of the community centre and this is where it will be located, once funding has been raised. Likewise, if any outdoor concerts are planned in Saintfield, the ideal place would be under the canopy at the community centre.

DOGS

Opinion is divided in the responses as to whether dogs should be allowed into the park. Further consultation will be needed to see if a compromise can be reached on this.

NEXT STEPS

STEERING GROUP

SDA is very keen that this exciting and much needed project is a long-term success for the residents of the area. To ensure that all available expertise is included as the plans are finalised, a steering group is being established. This will be an advisory group, meeting quarterly, to offer advice, assistance and constructive criticism. Saintfield Heritage Society and the National Trust have agreed to join this group. Other local community groups will also be invited to participate.

PLANNING PERMISSION

SDA has already had pre-application discussions with the local planning office, which indicated that there should be no impediment to obtaining permission for the change of use of the field from agricultural to amenity use. The idea of a park was carried forward in The Saintfield Integrated Development Plan 2017 led by the Council (NMDDC). This plan lists the provision of a community park on the Windmill Field as priority number two in its list of community and youth facilities for Saintfield. The windmill is a designated heritage site and the intention is to stabilise the structure and tell the story of the windmill. No buildings will be erected on the site. The final plan for the park will depend on the amount of funding available, so it might make sense to just apply for outline permission at this stage.

FUND-RAISING

This project is SDA led and has taken many years of hard work and planning to even get to this stage. The park will belong to the people of Saintfield and will be a place to meet, relax and enjoy the outdoors for generations to come. But is will cost a lot of money to bring it to fruition. To this end, SDA has researched a long list of potential funders for the development of the field into a community heritage park. A short list of five has been identified as the most likely to give grants for the project. SDA will be applying to these in the coming months.

SDA has also launched a local fund-raising campaign, using GoFundMe. This is the first time local residents are being asked to donate to an SDA project. Locally raised funds are important to other funders as evidence of community support, and also provides the matched funding most donors require. Please watch this video which explains what we are planning to do and how you can help: https://gf.me/u/yf77gr

LIKELY TIMESCALE

All projects that include public bodies usually take longer than anticipated. It is likely to take up to two years to achieve planning permission and to raise the necessary funds to make the old buildings on the site safe, develop the paths and to make the site secure. In the meantime, the field will continue to be used for agricultural purposes.

HOW YOU CAN HELP

SDA is always happy to welcome more volunteers to join their ranks, whether as a member of one of our teams or by just joining in for work parties occasionally. Even if you don’t have time to devote a few hours a month to helping your community organisation, you can always donate to the GoFundMe campaign via this link: https://gf.me/u/yf77gr

CONCLUSION

The SDA, with financial support from a generous donor in the United States, has taken the first steps in acquiring the windmill field. It is now up to all residents of Saintfield to join with us to complete the project over the coming years, to provide a community park and a legacy for future generations of which we can all be proud.

The people of Saintfield have always been supportive of community initiatives and we trust this support will continue.

The SDA staged two consultations over the last two months to engage with residents of Saintfield on the proposed community heritage park at the Windmill Field, adjacent to the Saintfield Community Centre.  Due to the Covid-19 pandemic, the survey was conducted through a PowerPoint presentation via electronic media.  There was an excellent response to the survey and the salient points from those responses are summarised below for your information.  The SDA project team will take into account all comments during the planning process for the park and will continue to liaise with residents to keep them informed as the project progresses.

Below is a summary of the comments from the two public consultations for the proposed Saintfield Community Heritage Park.

Suggestions:

– implementation could be phased as funding is sourced

– controlled access is important for security and preventing anti-social behaviour. Time-locked gates could be provided at Windmill Road.

– a children’s play area would be an added benefit

– an outdoor gym for older people

– more seating and benches

– the paths should be hard surface for buggies and wheel-chairs

– archaeological excavations should be carried out, especially to confirm whether there was a 17th century water powered sawmill

– the windmill could be fully restored in time

– the story of the Battle of Saintfield could be included

– near the allotments there should be storage for the SDA Green Team’s equipment

– there should be a water tap and picnic table by the allotments

– will there be toilets provided?

– consider the potential of extending a Greenway walk along the railway line or along the river, perhaps connecting Saintfield Demesne to Carsonstown

– consider revenue raising events to fund the maintenance (concerts, etc.)

– focus on wildlife habitats

Concerns raised:

– there are already anti-social behaviour problems in other areas of Saintfield. This park should not be a site for increased under-age drinking, drug use and anti-social behaviour

– there is already dangerous traffic on Windmill Road and the park should not add to this.

– there should not be access to the park from Windmill Road

– the park should not cause parking problems in Windmill Road or Windmill Grange

– there needs to be good security around the park, including fencing and high locked gates

– If CCTV is used to deter anti-social behaviour it should not impact on the privacy of immediate neighbours

– there should not be planned events that create noise problems for neighbours

– any planting around the boundary should not impact negatively on immediate neighbours

– any hedging or planting along the boundaries should be kept to a height acceptable to immediate neighbours

– if dogs are allowed, they should be not allowed to cause fouling problems

– is there enough head for a hydraulic generator without risking up-stream flooding or interfering with wildlife?

– how will the industrial heritage stories be told, including the water mill, windmill, flour mill, scutching mill and Belfast & County Down Railway?

– Keep the park as simple as possible to minimise maintenance, especially if volunteers will be relied on for the maintenance. A community garden would not be suitable.

– has the ongoing maintenance been costed?

– the buffer planting must be acceptable to immediate neighbours

– Support from Newry, Mourne and Down Council is essential, especially for access to the Windmill Field from the community centre site.

– Security to prevent anti-social behaviour is important

– learn from other similar projects, such as Beechgrove Garden as shown on BBC 2 television.

– Car parking capacity at peak times

– the park should be dog free

– there should be no increased risk to flooding for neighbouring properties

– why so little information so far? There should be more engagement, particularly with immediate neighbours.

The works have been scheduled for this period when schools are closed and there is typically less traffic commuting on this route. Whilst this work is largely outside the main street and town centre (completed in 2019), there will be some disruption experienced and steps will be taken to minimise the impact.

Click on the map below to download the pdf version which outlines the scheduled activity over the 12 weeks required for completion of the works. With the exception of a short closure of Windmill Road at the beginning of the works, the remaining works are to be undertaken under lane closure with temporary traffic lights. The programme of works will operate near critical junctions at times and to ensure a steady flow of traffic these will be manned Monday to Friday from 7am to 7pm and at busy times over the weekends by a specialist traffic management company.

Real time updates on the works as they progress will be available at: www.phoenixnaturalgas.com/projects

This is the second issue of a newsletter containing local information which you might find useful in the current situation.

You can download the PDF  by clicking on the image above or HERE.

Please submit any comments, suggestions or corrections to editor@discoversaintfield.co.uk

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We are very sorry to have to announce the death of Anne Walker.
Anne has been a long term and active worker within SDA.
Her first involvement was with the “Town Committee” many years ago when the group had huge success with Saintfield In Bloom winning several awards and lifting the sense of pride and morale in the Village during difficult political times.
She rejoined some ten years ago as we evolved into SDA and was again a driving force in the “Greens” group. She did sterling work driving forward the Saintfield in Bloom projects as well as other landscape schemes round the Village.
She did not neglect the social side of the Greens committee and made sure that meetings were jolly and informal as well as productive.
Anne was a great supporter of Lawrence Murphy and the rest of the Green team, both new and old members, and strove to ensure that they got the recognition they deserve.
She is sorely missed.

Hi there,

Thanks to an earlier query I made great breakthroughs for my Smyths of Lisdoonan. Now I need some help for the other side of the Sloan family, the Kennedy side. I am currently working on the Kennedys from Knocknagoney, Holywood. I know that John Kennedy had 3 daughters and 3 sons. One of the daughters Sarah Kennedy married Dr Henry Simpson of 1st Presbyterian, Saintfield in 1803. Her sister as listed in their fathers will of 1814, Margaret Kennedy, married someone named Robinson, farm in Cursens (Thats what it looks like but could be Lessons). I would assume they married around 1790ish. Cheers and thanks for any help anyone can give.

Jo

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